Government shutdown, week four. Diane talks to longtime political analyst Norm Ornstein, one of the most prolific chroniclers of Washington's descent into partisan dysfunction.
This week brings major news from special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation into ties between the Trump administration and Russia. As the public learns more from the secretive world of Mueller’s prosecution, it seems people are holding their breath for “the big one” – the thing that cracks it all open. But Ben Wittes says not so fast. Wittes is editor-in-chief of Lawfare and a close follower of the various investigations surrounding President Trump and his associates. Wittes says if there is a moment that will bring down President Trump, it’s not going to be legal – it will be political.
- Benjamin Wittes Senior fellow in governance studies, Brookings Institution; editor in chief at Lawfare.
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