Protesters hold signs demanding an end to the government shutdown.

Protesters hold signs demanding an end to the government shutdown.

The partial shutdown of the federal government has hit day 21, equaling the longest in U.S. history. This third week of the stalemate between congressional Democrats and President Trump brought an address from the oval office, talk of declaring a state of emergency at the border and the first missed payday for federal workers.

Jonah Goldberg of National Review joined Diane on the podcast to discuss how we got here and why it is so hard to move on.


  • Jonah Goldberg Senior editor, National Review; host of the podcast "The Remnant"; author of "The Suicide of The West"


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