Throughout the pandemic, Dr. Anthony Fauci has been America’s most visible public health official. The director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases and chief medical advisor to the president, many Americans have relied on his  updates about what scientists know, and are learning, about Covid-19. For some, he has become a symbol of government overreach and a target of hate mail, and even death threats. .

Now, as we are about to enter our third year in the struggle to combat Covid, Diane talks to Dr. Fauci about when the current Omicron wave might recede, what the government has gotten right — and wrong — with its response, and when he expects a return to normal, or, perhaps, a “new normal.”