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Then, President Obama ordered the Justice Department to decrease reliance on private prisons. President Trump rescinded that order. Since then, business has jumped for some private prison companies. A criminal justice expert says it is time to take a hard look at the industry.
- Maggie Haberman White House correspondent, The New York Times
- Glenn Thrush White House correspondent, The New York Times
- Lauren-Brooke Eisen Senior counsel, New York University School of Law's Brennan Center; author of "Inside Private Prisons: An American Dilemma in the Age of Mass Incarceration"
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